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March 23, 2022 at 10:45 am #61131Jeremy EmersonSpectator
Has anyone seen any issues with the face frame to box alignment issues, i use a 1/2 setback on my cabinets, what is odd ass the face frame is built to the size that cab writer designed out along with the boxes and even when you measure everything they are correct but when you put the two together they are mismatched, i only really get this issue when i have two or more cabinets being used with one face frame.
March 23, 2022 at 11:02 am #61132chiefwoodworkerSpectatorHi Jeremy,
Could you please provide a link to an .skp model file that shows the problem? I can’t visualize what you are describing.
Joe…..
March 23, 2022 at 2:16 pm #61134Jeremy EmersonSpectatorJoe
i guess there is no need for the file as all is correct on cabwriter and when i build everything the set of boxes are right and the faceframe is right but when you go to applied the frame to the box thing do not line up with there proper setbacksMarch 23, 2022 at 2:23 pm #61135cabwriterSpectatorHi Jeremy,
I think you need to give us even more detail on what is going on. You’re saying that everything is correct in the CabWriter model, but then you build it and it comes out differently? Are you saying that the cutlist is wrong or some other documentation? If it is correct in the SketchUp model, how could it come out different in real life, unless maybe the documentation was wrong? But, I would assume when you’re building it that you would double check the face frame cutlist measurements against the box, or maybe I’m missing the point completely. Could you send pictures of what’s happening in real life? Would that help us understand?
Thanks,
GregMarch 23, 2022 at 2:48 pm #61136Jeremy EmersonSpectatoryes both the face frame and box math come out correct but the set backs are not correct when you put the frame on, one side maybe a half inch but the next maybe 3/8 and next box setback be under 1/2 and so on maybe a call would be better
March 23, 2022 at 2:54 pm #61137cabwriterSpectatorHi Jeremy,
Maybe a call could be useful, but unless you send us a model and some pictures of what’s happening in real life, it’s not going to be any easier for us to understand what the problem is on a call either. We just can’t picture what you’re talking about. Can you first send us the model, then send us a picture of what’s happening in real life so we can understand what the problem is first, then if it’s not obvious what the problem is, we can get on a zoom call or something.
Thanks,
GregMarch 23, 2022 at 3:25 pm #61138Jeremy EmersonSpectatorGreg here is the model
March 23, 2022 at 3:26 pm #61139Jeremy EmersonSpectatori guess that is not working do you have a email for a direct file send
March 23, 2022 at 4:23 pm #61140chiefwoodworkerSpectatorHi Jeremy,
You can use Dropbox or the equivalent Google, Microsoft or Apple facility where you can upload the file and send us a link so that we can download it. But Greg is correct. Neither of us can visualize what you are describing.
Joe….
March 23, 2022 at 5:39 pm #61142Jeremy EmersonSpectatorhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1x3CrmF_ku6xUwzB8jLJAaQ7rGzbzO6hQ/view?usp=sharing
let me know if i did this right
March 23, 2022 at 5:45 pm #61143Jeremy EmersonSpectatorhere is a box pic
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You must be logged in to view attached files.March 24, 2022 at 11:59 am #61155chiefwoodworkerSpectatorHi Jeremy,
I can’t tell what the problem is from this picture alone. I need the .skp file along with it. Please provide a link to you.skp file. I do have some questions though.
1. What is the drawn thickness of the box sides and what is the actual thickness? When I look at the picture I don’t see a gap between the sides which I would expect because actual thickness of plywood is generally less than nominal thickness. Most cabinetmakers use a spacer to compensate.
2. What is the width of your stiles?
3. Do you have a side setback and what is the amount of setback?Joe….
March 24, 2022 at 1:07 pm #61156Jeremy EmersonSpectatorJoe
Did the link a few post back not work?
the thickness in cabwriter is 3/4 my ply is just .01-.02 undersize of that, my outside stiles are 2.00 and the connecting stiles are 2.5 ti give the 1/2 step back i need throughoutMarch 24, 2022 at 1:23 pm #61157chiefwoodworkerSpectatorHi Jeremy,
Sorry, I didn’t see that link. But now I am really confused as to what the issue is. According to the model your stile is 2 1/2″ wide and the sides are 3/4″. 2 1/2″ – (2 * 3/4″) is 1″. Divide that by 2 and you get 1/2″, meaning the stile protrudes from the sides by 1/2″, and looks like a 1/2″ side setback. This is very much like what I see in the picture except I can’t (easily) make measurements from the picture. So what I am saying is the picture looks like the model and I don’t see a problem.
Joe….
March 24, 2022 at 1:39 pm #61158chiefwoodworkerSpectatorHi Jeremy,
Just to demonstrate, attached is the model equivalent of your picture.
Joe….
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